[cross-project-issues-dev] Xtext blocking issue - request for respin of 2018-09

Discussion:

Karsten Thoms

2018-09-16 07:08:45 UTC

Dear PMC & cross-project members,

the Xtext team is apologising for speaking up in the quiet week of 2018-09 SimRel. A review on our 2.15.0 release revealed IP issues in the code base, which required immediate action. The issue is tracked in Bug#539108 [1]. We are solving the issue with highest priority and will provide our fixed release to SimRel until Monday Sep 17th.

We are hereby asking Eclipse Modeling PMC to support our request for a respin. This could also help project Corrosion, which has also an issue in RC2 [2].

With kind regards,
~Karsten

[1] https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=539108 <https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=539108>
[2] https://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/cross-project-issues-dev/msg16012.html

Ed Merks

2018-09-16 07:49:27 UTC

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Karsten,

Given that Xtext 2.15 is included in SimRel and given that this version
currently *does not* pass IP approval, it seems clear that we simply
cannot release SimRel 2018-09 in its current state.

So I reluctantly give this a +1. :-(

And of course, given we're re spinning anyway, definitely +1 for
including the fix for Corrosion in that respin.

Regards,
Ed

Post by Karsten Thoms
Dear PMC & cross-project members,
the Xtext team is apologising for speaking up in the quiet week of
2018-09 SimRel. A review on our 2.15.0 release revealed IP issues in
the code base, which required immediate action. The issue is tracked
in Bug#539108 [1]. We are solving the issue with highest priority and
will provide our fixed release to SimRel until Monday Sep 17th.
We are hereby asking Eclipse Modeling PMC to support our request for a
respin. This could also help project Corrosion, which has also an
issue in RC2 [2].
With kind regards,
~Karsten
[1] https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=539108
[2]
https://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/cross-project-issues-dev/msg16012.html
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Ed Willink

2018-09-16 08:58:20 UTC

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Hi

If Xtext has an IP issue on org.eclipse.xtext.util.Strings then does OCL
have a problem with

http://git.eclipse.org/c/ocl/org.eclipse.ocl.git/tree/plugins/org.eclipse.ocl.pivot/src/org/eclipse/ocl/pivot/utilities/StringUtil.java

which has two routines commented as e.g.

    /**
    * Mostly copied from {@link java.util.Properties#loadConvert} via
    * {@link org.eclipse.xtext.util.Strings#convertFromJavaString}
    */

I must confess that I considered JVM code as fair game, particularly
private statics such as:

    private static char toHex(int nibble) {
        return hexDigit[(nibble & 0xF)];
    }

    /** A table of hex digits */
    private static final char[] hexDigit = {
'0','1','2','3','4','5','6','7','8','9','A','B','C','D','E','F'
    };

that are too trivial to 'worry' about.

    Regards

        Ed Willink

Post by Ed Merks
Karsten,
Given that Xtext 2.15 is included in SimRel and given that this
version currently *does not* pass IP approval, it seems clear that we
simply cannot release SimRel 2018-09 in its current state.
So I reluctantly give this a +1. :-(
And of course, given we're re spinning anyway, definitely +1 for
including the fix for Corrosion in that respin.
Regards,
Ed

Post by Karsten Thoms
Dear PMC & cross-project members,
the Xtext team is apologising for speaking up in the quiet week of
2018-09 SimRel. A review on our 2.15.0 release revealed IP issues in
the code base, which required immediate action. The issue is tracked
in Bug#539108 [1]. We are solving the issue with highest priority and
will provide our fixed release to SimRel until Monday Sep 17th.
We are hereby asking Eclipse Modeling PMC to support our request for
a respin. This could also help project Corrosion, which has also an
issue in RC2 [2].
With kind regards,
~Karsten
[1] https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=539108
[2]
https://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/cross-project-issues-dev/msg16012.html
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Ed Merks

2018-09-16 09:18:33 UTC

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Ed,

Yes, I imagine that is by transitivity also a major problem. :-(

JDK code is never fair game. Fair game always depends on the license of
the source; the JDK does not have a friendly license for any
copy-and-paste efforts. Fair game must also follow attribution rules,
because we can expect the patent trolls of the world to evolve into
copyright attribution trolls. As such, no matter how trivial, copying
code from the JDK is always bad news. The source being trivial just begs
the question why a trivial thing can't be trivially implemented without
copy-and-paste!

At least the attribution rules have been followed, but of course "copied
from the JDK" is a screaming red flag for any IP reviews.

Please address this issue with highest priority. The SimRel respin
cannot be allowed to drag into Tuesday.

Regards,
Ed

Post by Ed Willink
Hi
If Xtext has an IP issue on org.eclipse.xtext.util.Strings then does
OCL have a problem with
http://git.eclipse.org/c/ocl/org.eclipse.ocl.git/tree/plugins/org.eclipse.ocl.pivot/src/org/eclipse/ocl/pivot/utilities/StringUtil.java
which has two routines commented as e.g.
    /**
    */
I must confess that I considered JVM code as fair game, particularly
    private static char toHex(int nibble) {
        return hexDigit[(nibble & 0xF)];
    }
    /** A table of hex digits */
    private static final char[] hexDigit = {
'0','1','2','3','4','5','6','7','8','9','A','B','C','D','E','F'
    };
that are too trivial to 'worry' about.
    Regards
        Ed Willink

Post by Karsten Thoms
Dear PMC & cross-project members,
the Xtext team is apologising for speaking up in the quiet week of
2018-09 SimRel. A review on our 2.15.0 release revealed IP issues in
the code base, which required immediate action. The issue is tracked
in Bug#539108 [1]. We are solving the issue with highest priority
and will provide our fixed release to SimRel until Monday Sep 17th.
We are hereby asking Eclipse Modeling PMC to support our request for
a respin. This could also help project Corrosion, which has also an
issue in RC2 [2].
With kind regards,
~Karsten
[1] https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=539108
[2]
https://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/cross-project-issues-dev/msg16012.html
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Ed Willink

2018-09-16 11:49:09 UTC

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Hi Ed

Rewrite currently available on OCL branch ewillink/539110; see
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=539110

Currently building. I presume that your request to "address with the
highest priority" is a +1 to contribute a successful OCL 6.5.0RC2a
rebuild; hopefully later this afternoon.

Regards

Ed Willink

Ed,
Yes, I imagine that is by transitivity also a major problem. :-(
JDK code is never fair game. Fair game always depends on the license
of the source; the JDK does not have a friendly license for any
copy-and-paste efforts. Fair game must also follow attribution rules,
because we can expect the patent trolls of the world to evolve into
copyright attribution trolls. As such, no matter how trivial, copying
code from the JDK is always bad news. The source being trivial just
begs the question why a trivial thing can't be trivially implemented
without copy-and-paste!
At least the attribution rules have been followed, but of course
"copied from the JDK" is a screaming red flag for any IP reviews.
Please address this issue with highest priority. The SimRel respin
cannot be allowed to drag into Tuesday.
Regards,
Ed

Post by Ed Merks
Karsten,
Given that Xtext 2.15 is included in SimRel and given that this
version currently *does not* pass IP approval, it seems clear that
we simply cannot release SimRel 2018-09 in its current state.
So I reluctantly give this a +1. :-(
And of course, given we're re spinning anyway, definitely +1 for
including the fix for Corrosion in that respin.
Regards,
Ed

Post by Karsten Thoms
Dear PMC & cross-project members,
the Xtext team is apologising for speaking up in the quiet week of
2018-09 SimRel. A review on our 2.15.0 release revealed IP issues
in the code base, which required immediate action. The issue is
tracked in Bug#539108 [1]. We are solving the issue with highest
priority and will provide our fixed release to SimRel until Monday
Sep 17th.
We are hereby asking Eclipse Modeling PMC to support our request
for a respin. This could also help project Corrosion, which has
also an issue in RC2 [2].
With kind regards,
~Karsten
[1] https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=539108
[2]
https://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/cross-project-issues-dev/msg16012.html
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Ed Merks

2018-09-16 12:10:13 UTC

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Ed,

Yes, because any IP violations are, in my opinion, a blocker for SimRel.

Given that others have already chimed in for a respin for Corrosion, I
take it as a given that with these additional issues there will in fact
be a respin and it ought to include the OCL and Xtext updates.

Regards,
Ed

Post by Ed Willink
Hi Ed
Rewrite currently available on OCL branch ewillink/539110; see
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=539110
Currently building. I presume that your request to "address with the
highest priority" is a +1 to contribute a successful OCL 6.5.0RC2a
rebuild; hopefully later this afternoon.
Regards
Ed Willink

Ed,
Yes, I imagine that is by transitivity also a major problem. :-(
JDK code is never fair game. Fair game always depends on the license
of the source; the JDK does not have a friendly license for any
copy-and-paste efforts. Fair game must also follow attribution
rules, because we can expect the patent trolls of the world to evolve
into copyright attribution trolls. As such, no matter how trivial,
copying code from the JDK is always bad news. The source being
trivial just begs the question why a trivial thing can't be trivially
implemented without copy-and-paste!
At least the attribution rules have been followed, but of course
"copied from the JDK" is a screaming red flag for any IP reviews.
Please address this issue with highest priority. The SimRel respin
cannot be allowed to drag into Tuesday.
Regards,
Ed

Post by Ed Merks
Karsten,
Given that Xtext 2.15 is included in SimRel and given that this
version currently *does not* pass IP approval, it seems clear that
we simply cannot release SimRel 2018-09 in its current state.
So I reluctantly give this a +1. :-(
And of course, given we're re spinning anyway, definitely +1 for
including the fix for Corrosion in that respin.
Regards,
Ed

Post by Karsten Thoms
Dear PMC & cross-project members,
the Xtext team is apologising for speaking up in the quiet week of
2018-09 SimRel. A review on our 2.15.0 release revealed IP issues
in the code base, which required immediate action. The issue is
tracked in Bug#539108 [1]. We are solving the issue with highest
priority and will provide our fixed release to SimRel until Monday
Sep 17th.
We are hereby asking Eclipse Modeling PMC to support our request
for a respin. This could also help project Corrosion, which has
also an issue in RC2 [2].
With kind regards,
~Karsten
[1] https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=539108
[2]
https://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/cross-project-issues-dev/msg16012.html
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Ed Willink

2018-09-16 13:06:05 UTC

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Hi

OCL 6.5.0RC2a contributed and available for a respin.

Regards

Ed Willink

Post by Ed Merks
Ed,
Yes, because any IP violations are, in my opinion, a blocker for SimRel.
Given that others have already chimed in for a respin for Corrosion, I
take it as a given that with these additional issues there will in
fact be a respin and it ought to include the OCL and Xtext updates.
Regards,
Ed

Post by Ed Merks
Ed,
Yes, I imagine that is by transitivity also a major problem. :-(
JDK code is never fair game. Fair game always depends on the
license of the source; the JDK does not have a friendly license for
any copy-and-paste efforts. Fair game must also follow attribution
rules, because we can expect the patent trolls of the world to
evolve into copyright attribution trolls. As such, no matter how
trivial, copying code from the JDK is always bad news. The source
being trivial just begs the question why a trivial thing can't be
trivially implemented without copy-and-paste!
At least the attribution rules have been followed, but of course
"copied from the JDK" is a screaming red flag for any IP reviews.
Please address this issue with highest priority. The SimRel respin
cannot be allowed to drag into Tuesday.
Regards,
Ed

Post by Ed Willink
Hi
If Xtext has an IP issue on org.eclipse.xtext.util.Strings then
does OCL have a problem with
http://git.eclipse.org/c/ocl/org.eclipse.ocl.git/tree/plugins/org.eclipse.ocl.pivot/src/org/eclipse/ocl/pivot/utilities/StringUtil.java
which has two routines commented as e.g.
    /**
    */
I must confess that I considered JVM code as fair game,
    private static char toHex(int nibble) {
        return hexDigit[(nibble & 0xF)];
    }
    /** A table of hex digits */
    private static final char[] hexDigit = {
'0','1','2','3','4','5','6','7','8','9','A','B','C','D','E','F'
    };
that are too trivial to 'worry' about.
    Regards
        Ed Willink

Post by Ed Merks
Karsten,
Given that Xtext 2.15 is included in SimRel and given that this
version currently *does not* pass IP approval, it seems clear that
we simply cannot release SimRel 2018-09 in its current state.
So I reluctantly give this a +1. :-(
And of course, given we're re spinning anyway, definitely +1 for
including the fix for Corrosion in that respin.
Regards,
Ed

Post by Karsten Thoms
Dear PMC & cross-project members,
the Xtext team is apologising for speaking up in the quiet week
of 2018-09 SimRel. A review on our 2.15.0 release revealed IP
issues in the code base, which required immediate action. The
issue is tracked in Bug#539108 [1]. We are solving the issue with
highest priority and will provide our fixed release to SimRel
until Monday Sep 17th.
We are hereby asking Eclipse Modeling PMC to support our request
for a respin. This could also help project Corrosion, which has
also an issue in RC2 [2].
With kind regards,
~Karsten
[1] https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=539108
[2]
https://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/cross-project-issues-dev/msg16012.html
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Karsten Thoms

2018-09-16 19:50:00 UTC

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Xtext has contributed 2.15.0.v20180916-1232 to SimRel, which resolves Bug#539108 <https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=539108>. We are ready for the respin.

Kind regards,
~Karsten

Post by Ed Willink
Hi
OCL 6.5.0RC2a contributed and available for a respin.
Regards
Ed Willink

Post by Ed Merks
Ed,
Yes, because any IP violations are, in my opinion, a blocker for SimRel.
Given that others have already chimed in for a respin for Corrosion, I take it as a given that with these additional issues there will in fact be a respin and it ought to include the OCL and Xtext updates.
Regards,
Ed

Hi Ed
Rewrite currently available on OCL branch ewillink/539110; see https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=539110 <https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=539110>
Currently building. I presume that your request to "address with the highest priority" is a +1 to contribute a successful OCL 6.5.0RC2a rebuild; hopefully later this afternoon.
Regards
Ed Willink

Ed,
Yes, I imagine that is by transitivity also a major problem. :-(
JDK code is never fair game. Fair game always depends on the license of the source; the JDK does not have a friendly license for any copy-and-paste efforts. Fair game must also follow attribution rules, because we can expect the patent trolls of the world to evolve into copyright attribution trolls. As such, no matter how trivial, copying code from the JDK is always bad news. The source being trivial just begs the question why a trivial thing can't be trivially implemented without copy-and-paste!
At least the attribution rules have been followed, but of course "copied from the JDK" is a screaming red flag for any IP reviews.
Please address this issue with highest priority. The SimRel respin cannot be allowed to drag into Tuesday.
Regards,
Ed

Hi
If Xtext has an IP issue on org.eclipse.xtext.util.Strings then does OCL have a problem with
http://git.eclipse.org/c/ocl/org.eclipse.ocl.git/tree/plugins/org.eclipse.ocl.pivot/src/org/eclipse/ocl/pivot/utilities/StringUtil.java <http://git.eclipse.org/c/ocl/org.eclipse.ocl.git/tree/plugins/org.eclipse.ocl.pivot/src/org/eclipse/ocl/pivot/utilities/StringUtil.java>
which has two routines commented as e.g.
/**
*/
private static char toHex(int nibble) {
return hexDigit[(nibble & 0xF)];
}
/** A table of hex digits */
private static final char[] hexDigit = {
'0','1','2','3','4','5','6','7','8','9','A','B','C','D','E','F'
};
that are too trivial to 'worry' about.
Regards
Ed Willink

Post by Ed Merks
Karsten,
Given that Xtext 2.15 is included in SimRel and given that this version currently does not pass IP approval, it seems clear that we simply cannot release SimRel 2018-09 in its current state.
So I reluctantly give this a +1. :-(
And of course, given we're re spinning anyway, definitely +1 for including the fix for Corrosion in that respin.
Regards,
Ed

Post by Karsten Thoms
Dear PMC & cross-project members,
the Xtext team is apologising for speaking up in the quiet week of 2018-09 SimRel. A review on our 2.15.0 release revealed IP issues in the code base, which required immediate action. The issue is tracked in Bug#539108 [1]. We are solving the issue with highest priority and will provide our fixed release to SimRel until Monday Sep 17th.
We are hereby asking Eclipse Modeling PMC to support our request for a respin. This could also help project Corrosion, which has also an issue in RC2 [2].
With kind regards,
~Karsten
[1] https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=539108 <https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=539108>
[2] https://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/cross-project-issues-dev/msg16012.html <https://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/cross-project-issues-dev/msg16012.html>
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